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First time in Medellín, looking for advice on finding girls

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Unagidani484

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Hey y’all,
Just arrived in Medellín today, and found this forum…hoping to get some advice on how to go about finding a good time

First and foremost concern is not getting drugged/robbed/stabbed, I hear that’s kind of on the uptick recently so any advice on having my fun safely and avoiding becoming one of those horror stories is greatly appreciated

Also how to go about finding the best girls? I hear some of the strip clubs are pretty good…I’ve also been perusing the forums and it seems a lot of dudes are big on Angeles spa, is that a brothel? How do I contact them?
How about escort sites for out-call girls, are they reputable/safe? What’s everybody’s preferences?

Finally, if anybody can point me toward some girls with at least a bit of English skills that would be preferred, trying to remember all my high school Spanish and I can speak well enough to get by but I really struggle to understand the locals

If there’s anybody in town who’s interested in meeting up I’m here till monday
Cheers
 

Minetero

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prepsupport

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Hey y’all,
Just arrived in Medellín today, and found this forum…hoping to get some advice on how to go about finding a good time

First and foremost concern is not getting drugged/robbed/stabbed, I hear that’s kind of on the uptick recently so any advice on having my fun safely and avoiding becoming one of those horror stories is greatly appreciated

Also how to go about finding the best girls? I hear some of the strip clubs are pretty good…I’ve also been perusing the forums and it seems a lot of dudes are big on Angeles spa, is that a brothel? How do I contact them?
How about escort sites for out-call girls, are they reputable/safe? What’s everybody’s preferences?

Finally, if anybody can point me toward some girls with at least a bit of English skills that would be preferred, trying to remember all my high school Spanish and I can speak well enough to get by but I really struggle to understand the locals

If there’s anybody in town who’s interested in meeting up I’m here till monday
Cheers
Not getting drugged, etc. --- This two part security thread is in Spanish, but some pretty solid tips for searching . You can use a translator to go over it. It will also cover how to search online for girls safely.

Also, you can use recommendation on girls from the members here.

In this thread we cover some info, and we also linked to some other similar threads. Go through this thread and the linked threads as well. It will answer a lot for you for girls, safety, preferences, etc.

For your last point: as for English speaking girls, many great women don't speak enough English, so you'd be missing on quite a bit. I'd focus on the casas. Here is the angeles site.
 

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Also, many girls in clubs and casas are used to using google translate. You're not the first gringo with broken Spanish, haha. For safety, I wouldn't be using a translator on the street, but then again, I don't pick up street girls.

Google translate should get you through this trip. Yes it get old, but for this trip, don't worry too much about that. You can probably save the 10 most common phrases anyway. You won't be talking to them THAT much.
 

Connoisseur

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Hey y’all,
Just arrived in Medellín today, and found this forum…hoping to get some advice on how to go about finding a good time

First and foremost concern is not getting drugged/robbed/stabbed, I hear that’s kind of on the uptick recently so any advice on having my fun safely and avoiding becoming one of those horror stories is greatly appreciated

Also how to go about finding the best girls? I hear some of the strip clubs are pretty good…I’ve also been perusing the forums and it seems a lot of dudes are big on Angeles spa, is that a brothel? How do I contact them?
How about escort sites for out-call girls, are they reputable/safe? What’s everybody’s preferences?

Finally, if anybody can point me toward some girls with at least a bit of English skills that would be preferred, trying to remember all my high school Spanish and I can speak well enough to get by but I really struggle to understand the locals

If there’s anybody in town who’s interested in meeting up I’m here till monday
Cheers
The brothels and strip clubs have lots of good talent. Strip clubs are more expensive. Stay away from street girls in Lleras and elsewhere. And beware of tinder and other apps. Pay to play is the best play for safety. If a regular girl you meet wants to go back to your place after meeting and she’s not a working girl, 99.9 percent you’re being set up for something nefarious. The reviews in here are a good way to find the better options. Have fun.
 

Unagidani484

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Ok cool, street girls aren’t really my style anyway, if all it takes to stay safe is to go to a proper establishment and pay a little more that shouldn’t be a problem

Thanks for the thread on safety…I don’t need a translator I can actually read Spanish pretty well, I’m a little shaky at speaking it but my big weakness is in comprehension, when most locals say stuff to me I just blank…it’s an unfortunate disadvantage but I’m partially here to try to correct my disability somewhat

I also did see that Medellín Newbie post as well but it was from a couple years ago, so was wondering how much of it was still relevant

Also, any recommendations on other casitas? Or strip clubs? I read some stuff about other places worth going to in previous posts but a lot of them go back a few years as well, I know staff turns over and phone numbers change, so just curious what the current landscape is…angeles sounds like a good bet for casitas just wondering if there are others worth going to. I do like strip clubs as well I know they’re pricier but I’m willing to splurge once or twice while I’m here if the experience is worth it

Also, what’s the best etiquette here? For both strip clubs and casitas? Should I reach out by whattsapp first and try to make appointments, or do they take walk ins?
 

Elephant_man

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Do you want to be safe being an English-speaking foreigner?
1) You are fortunate that the services you take will almost always be excellent because of your nationality. The girls will always try to get you to give them more dollars for their good service (does not apply to us locals)

2) Avoid showing money, try to be as stingy as possible. This will prevent them from seeing you as an ATM and taking advantage of your ignorance of the places you visit.

3) No matter how pretty you think a woman is or how good you have felt about her, do not invite her to the place where you are staying. Don't give them gifts either, and don't overpay. When you contact them, do it in Spanish through whatsapp, this will prevent them from giving you a different price

4) Try not to make personal ties with any girl. It doesn't matter how much someone says they fell in love with you hahah.

P.S.: PLEASE DON'T PAY TOO MUCH FOR A SERVICE. The locals are the ones who suffer from this. Services have risen by more than 50% in the last year
 

prepsupport

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Ok cool, street girls aren’t really my style anyway, if all it takes to stay safe is to go to a proper establishment and pay a little more that shouldn’t be a problem

Thanks for the thread on safety…I don’t need a translator I can actually read Spanish pretty well, I’m a little shaky at speaking it but my big weakness is in comprehension, when most locals say stuff to me I just blank…it’s an unfortunate disadvantage but I’m partially here to try to correct my disability somewhat

I also did see that Medellín Newbie post as well but it was from a couple years ago, so was wondering how much of it was still relevant

Also, any recommendations on other casitas? Or strip clubs? I read some stuff about other places worth going to in previous posts but a lot of them go back a few years as well, I know staff turns over and phone numbers change, so just curious what the current landscape is…angeles sounds like a good bet for casitas just wondering if there are others worth going to. I do like strip clubs as well I know they’re pricier but I’m willing to splurge once or twice while I’m here if the experience is worth it

Also, what’s the best etiquette here? For both strip clubs and casitas? Should I reach out by whattsapp first and try to make appointments, or do they take walk ins?
RE street girls: good shit. same.

RE Spanish comprehension: yeah, you just need the repetitions. might be worth it to hire a local teacher to give you a crash course on common sayings, phrases, etc. and get some practice in. disguising your pricing talk as if you were asking about things while shopping or eating in a restaurant (how much, what's included, etc hahaha)

RE medellin newbie post: should be still relevant

Re Recs: this is a good start...
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EL CENTRO - I don't have sites for these but they will show up on a google maps
Zandaly https://goo.gl/maps/qHrfGv1krNc4Hdsp8
New Life https://goo.gl/maps/AkFmh9nZm1GPGJ6HA
Hotel Bliss https://goo.gl/maps/BfpU9BcJsWrSoXvQ8
The Doll House https://maps.app.goo.gl/tzrygoYpHdRyCnNJ6
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LAURELES
Angeles Spa - https://catalogoangeles.blogspot.com/2023/06/catalogo-de-angeles.html (info is here: https://catalogoangeles.blogspot.com/2023/06/bienvenido-tu-spa-erotico-angeles.html)
Ellas Erotic - https://ellaserotic.com/ (all info is on page)
Chicas Plus - https://maps.app.goo.gl/49EdpK7RxxCHGzg28
Sensaciones/Casa San Joaquin - https://maps.app.goo.gl/NtueXjTYtUr3nHZd8

Contact method - for casas I'd try to whatsapp ahead of time to see if a girl is working that day. You can tell them you are on the way, but even if they make an "appointment" they girl might not be ready when you get there. To be fair, they don't know if you are going to show up and many Colombians are flaky. Hell many gringos are flaky when it comes to this stuff too. At best, they are not very prompt. The only way to get a real appointment is to do a domicilo and that is much pricier. And she still may show up late.

For stripclubs, definitely don't do any advanced contact. I even had the personal cell phone numbers of two girls and they were super flaky and did not answer much. I was super to the point but still nothing. Was a giant waste of time. La Isla has a ton of hot girls. You can just show up and take your pick. Since I can't read reviews of those girls, I like to talk to them for a bit too, even if I have to buy one overpriced drink for them. If they seem pushy at all I eject. She better have a great attitude or I'm moving on. Too many girls to waste time guessing. I'd rather waste a few bucks on a girl drink than a dead lay.
 

prepsupport

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Also, did you see these links?

 

Unagidani484

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Do you want to be safe being an English-speaking foreigner?
1) You are fortunate that the services you take will almost always be excellent because of your nationality. The girls will always try to get you to give them more dollars for their good service (does not apply to us locals)

2) Avoid showing money, try to be as stingy as possible. This will prevent them from seeing you as an ATM and taking advantage of your ignorance of the places you visit.

3) No matter how pretty you think a woman is or how good you have felt about her, do not invite her to the place where you are staying. Don't give them gifts either, and don't overpay. When you contact them, do it in Spanish through whatsapp, this will prevent them from giving you a different price

4) Try not to make personal ties with any girl. It doesn't matter how much someone says they fell in love with you hahah.

P.S.: PLEASE DON'T PAY TOO MUCH FOR A SERVICE. The locals are the ones who suffer from this. Services have risen by more than 50% in the last year
Yes, of course I certainly don’t want to overpay…it seems that Angeles lists their prices on their website, is that what I should expect to be paying? Often in Europe or the U.S. there’s like a base fee and then it’s more for this and extra for that…annoying, but that’s the racket there. So what are the pricings listed fully accurate, or should I expect their to be additional markups?
 

prepsupport

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Yes, of course I certainly don’t want to overpay…it seems that Angeles lists their prices on their website, is that what I should expect to be paying? Often in Europe or the U.S. there’s like a base fee and then it’s more for this and extra for that…annoying, but that’s the racket there. So what are the pricings listed fully accurate, or should I expect their to be additional markups?
Most of the good casas are pretty transparent about what is included and what you must pay extra for: 1 vs. 2 shots (often depends on time booked), BBBJ (if offfered, depends on the girl), etc. The good casas like angeles won't magically change their pricing.

When something varies girl-to-girl, you can find out beforhand. Definitely have your list ready of what you want. You can ask each casa (though whatsapp/telegram) if a certain girl does BBBJ, Trios, and what her cost is, etc. Do that before you make arrangements

The casas I mentioned seem to be transparent from the reviews on this forum. Others spas will definitely run a cambiazo on you, so run the casa name by this thread if you want to try one not mentioned above. There are other good ones for sure.
 

Unagidani484

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Most of the good casas are pretty transparent about what is included and what you must pay extra for: 1 vs. 2 shots (often depends on time booked), BBBJ (if offfered, depends on the girl), etc. The good casas like angeles won't magically change their pricing.

When something varies girl-to-girl, you can find out beforhand. Definitely have your list ready of what you want. You can ask each casa (though whatsapp/telegram) if a certain girl does BBBJ, Trios, and what her cost is, etc. Do that before you make arrangements

The casas I mentioned seem to be transparent from the reviews on this forum. Others spas will definitely run a cambiazo on you, so run the casa name by this thread if you want to try one not mentioned above. There are other good ones for sure.
Ok got it…how about tipping the girl? Is it customary here? If so what’s a typical range? Happy to be generous, but not excessive
 

prepsupport

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Ok got it…how about tipping the girl? Is it customary here? If so what’s a typical range? Happy to be generous, but not excessive
tl;dr: Generally not customary. But some locals do tip up to 10% from what I've read, though this is the pretty small exception.

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Some background

I'm sure you've heard of "No Dar Papaya" - basically don't make yourself a target, generally to get robbed/scammed. Well there is a related term "comiendo marrano" - this is not as much as being robbed, but more like people taking advantage of a generous person. Because it is not a tipping culture, tipping too much may actually be counter productive as they will lose respect for you. You are the "bobo" who is there to be hustled.

This is part of what Colombians warn us about. Yes, they don't want us to fuck up the market for them, but you already understand that. But part of their point is that it doesn't even make sense in the first place.

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Okay, back to Prepagos:

A few Colombians indicate they have tipped (rarely) for stellar service, but if so, a very small amount, depending on her overall fee (10-20k? or 10%). Basically I'd just not consider it as a short time gringo.

My thinking is this: given that many items are a la carte for many girls in Colombia, I feel that if she wants more money, she can offer more services (COB, COF, CIM, etc. - by the way, make sure to negotiate that stuff to in advance too, just like MSOG or BBBJ).

Still some girls are hustlers of course and will still ask. If she asks for a tip, I'll tell her I only tip/give extra for (whatever service she denied me) and then I probably won't be back.

However, if a girl gives me BBBJ, COF, and MSOG all for a good price and great service, honestly I probably would just tip her haha. But again, no more than $20k. Also, if you go to a club or place where the girls charge more than $200k, that is the tip, so nothing more needed IMO.
 

FrankWyke

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RE: The advice on avoiding the Parque Lleras girls- Is this because they just cost more than they’re worth combined with the potential for getting scoped? How about escort girls from Pasión, Photoprepagos or Mileroticos? Better?

I’m staying near the Parque on an upcoming trip. Certainly going to check out the merchandise, but my favorite way to enjoy chicas is bringing them back to my hotel for extended sessions —and that seems to be wholly discouraged with the Lleras ladies. I’ve done TLN in Bogota, but Medellin seems to be a different beast.

Thoughts?
 

Unagidani484

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tl;dr: Generally not customary. But some locals do tip up to 10% from what I've read, though this is the pretty small exception.

---

Some background

I'm sure you've heard of "No Dar Papaya" - basically don't make yourself a target, generally to get robbed/scammed. Well there is a related term "comiendo marrano" - this is not as much as being robbed, but more like people taking advantage of a generous person. Because it is not a tipping culture, tipping too much may actually be counter productive as they will lose respect for you. You are the "bobo" who is there to be hustled.

This is part of what Colombians warn us about. Yes, they don't want us to fuck up the market for them, but you already understand that. But part of their point is that it doesn't even make sense in the first place.

---

Okay, back to Prepagos:

A few Colombians indicate they have tipped (rarely) for stellar service, but if so, a very small amount, depending on her overall fee (10-20k? or 10%). Basically I'd just not consider it as a short time gringo.

My thinking is this: given that many items are a la carte for many girls in Colombia, I feel that if she wants more money, she can offer more services (COB, COF, CIM, etc. - by the way, make sure to negotiate that stuff to in advance too, just like MSOG or BBBJ).

Still some girls are hustlers of course and will still ask. If she asks for a tip, I'll tell her I only tip/give extra for (whatever service she denied me) and then I probably won't be back.

However, if a girl gives me BBBJ, COF, and MSOG all for a good price and great service, honestly I probably would just tip her haha. But again, no more than $20k. Also, if you go to a club or place where the girls charge more than $200k, that is the tip, so nothing more needed IMO.
Ok got it, no tips, pay a little extra for additional services
 

prepsupport

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RE: The advice on avoiding the Parque Lleras girls- Is this because they just cost more than they’re worth combined with the potential for getting scoped?
Both. Some experienced guys here like @SkankHunt42 pick up street girls and have a lot of success. Most gringos stay away. Perhaps if he is not busy he can chime in with his best practices. If you search his name on the forum you will find great advice from him. Especially his trip reviews. https://catadorcolombia.com/search/2540964/

He also has great replies on this safety thread https://catadorcolombia.com/threads/safety-as-a-solo-traveler.18763/

@Unagidani484 - the safety thread will be useful for you too
How about escort girls from Pasión, Photoprepagos or Mileroticos? Better?
Better. Those girls are fine in generally, but stick to well reviewed girls. You can do a phone number search on this forum. Name searches work too but you have to dig a bit more. Be aware that the worst scammers change #s and names.
I’m staying near the Parque on an upcoming trip. Certainly going to check out the merchandise, but my favorite way to enjoy chicas is bringing them back to my hotel for extended sessions —and that seems to be wholly discouraged with the Lleras ladies. I’ve done TLN in Bogota, but Medellin seems to be a different beast.
I can't blame anyone for checking out street girls but for most guys here, there are just WAY too many solid options of well reviewed girls who are not only safe, but that you can be almost certain that they provide good service as they are well reviewed.

Remember, you can always do extended sessions with a casa girl too. Most people here never do more than 1/2-1hr on the 1st cita. Just too many chances for disappointment. Visit an independent girl or casa girl 1st. If she is great, get her # for a longer session at your hotel. Not all of them will go for this, but worth a shot. You can book an amenecida through a casa in certain cases, but that seems too pricey to me.
 

Neil Macauley

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I'm a gringo who has lived here for five years. Some thoughts:

I've had good experiences at Angels Spa (lots) and Chicas Plus. Bad experiences at Ellas Erotic and their sister club Elixir Purpura; by reputation I know that La Castellana is both dangerous and a huge ripoff.

Re picking up a girl who is not working in a casa (Tinder, Parque Lleras), I would definitely bone up on both my Spanish and experiences in the country first before graduating to this level. Plenty of fun can be had at a good casa.

But if you are determined or want to keep notes for the future, meet the girl at a love hotel. I recommend Ibiza, but there are several here. These are not customary hotels, but are instead designed for people to securely have sex. The doors to the rooms are opened only by remote control from the front desk. They check ID if the girl looks young as they do not want any sort of child sex crime going on in their hotel. Time is rented in six-hour blocks, so no one stays here for mulitple days, i.e., she knows you won't have all of your luggage and money in the room. Even if she thinks to drug you, as the renter of the room, you have to pay for the room and call the front desk to open the room's door anyway. She wouldn't be able to leave without a lot of explaining and suspicion.

Never let the girl choose the hotel. Bonus points for using a burner cell phone that does not have any sensitive information like banking apps, crypto, etc. Bring cash only. Suerte, bro.
 

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I'm a gringo who has lived here for five years. Some thoughts:

I've had good experiences at Angels Spa (lots) and Chicas Plus. Bad experiences at Ellas Erotic and their sister club Elixir Purpura; by reputation I know that La Castellana is both dangerous and a huge ripoff.

Re picking up a girl who is not working in a casa (Tinder, Parque Lleras), I would definitely bone up on both my Spanish and experiences in the country first before graduating to this level. Plenty of fun can be had at a good casa.

But if you are determined or want to keep notes for the future, meet the girl at a love hotel. I recommend Ibiza, but there are several here. These are not customary hotels, but are instead designed for people to securely have sex. The doors to the rooms are opened only by remote control from the front desk. They check ID if the girl looks young as they do not want any sort of child sex crime going on in their hotel. Time is rented in six-hour blocks, so no one stays here for mulitple days, i.e., she knows you won't have all of your luggage and money in the room. Even if she thinks to drug you, as the renter of the room, you have to pay for the room and call the front desk to open the room's door anyway. She wouldn't be able to leave without a lot of explaining and suspicion.

Never let the girl choose the hotel. Bonus points for using a burner cell phone that does not have any sensitive information like banking apps, crypto, etc. Bring cash only. Suerte, bro.
Thanks man, this super is helpful.

I never used a love hotel but people on the forum talked about them a while back and had one or two recs in each barrio. I can't seem to find the links. I know some gringos have used https://www.motelnow.com.co/ to find short terms hotels but again, I don't have current info.

I think I remember them mentioning "Golden Suites" and "Villa Park" in Laureles but I can't remember if anybody vouched "Las Cabañas" in Poblado. I'll take @Neil Macauley 's word on Ibiza, of course. Hotel Paradise Lleras was another one in Pobaldo that I read about, but again, if anybody has better info that me on these places, please let us know.

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Also, I should have mentioned earlier: other huge ripoffs based on gringos in the forum as well as some personal experience are:
Any others I missed?
 

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